I agree with what LaTina said thats basically the only thing to do as of now we need to talk to them and express our feelings and concerns about the actions they take and how they go about doing things, maybe once they see where we are coming from together we can come up with alternative solutions.
I believe the key towards improving black students relations with the campus police is education and the formation of a common ground between both sides. I believe if most students took the time to understand and be aware of campus regulations along with the potential consequences, students will be less inclined towards breaking them. Also on the side of the officials, I believe more can be done on their part towards reaching out to students in order to make students more calm and comfortable while students are in their midst. At the root of it all, I believe the University should play a lead role towards unifying the police and students.
La Tina hit it right on the head. I believe that students should have an event where they can learn about their rights and learn about ways to which they can handle certain situations that are constantly talked about. Also, I feel like those students that are against the police, need to become a little less judgmental of each police officer. With better approaches to authority, I believe that many situations would be handled a lot easier with less controversy.
Knowing our rights is very vital. "A lot of times If we knew our rights a lot of things that happen with the police wouldn't have happened." (DeaD Prez p.165). If in a police encounter, knowing our rights may prevent injustice, as they realize we know what's considered proper and improper procedure. Or if improper procedure takes place and we report it, they face consequences and may lessen the chances of them furthering their misconduct.
I think that knowing how to network and having positive interactions with the police can improve the relationship between the two. That way if we saw them we wouldn't have any animosity built up inside towards them. I also agree with Airian's point about knowing our rights. Maybe if there was an incidence involving the police, and we knew what they could and couldn't do, it would make the situation go by a lot smoother. That way there could also be a respect level amongst the two groups so instead of getting angry with the police or arguing with them, a simple conversation will suffice. Things like that can prevent occurrences like what happened at High Dive.
Contrary to popular belief….Police officers are people too. I’m not saying that every cop is a good one, we all know that this is not the case. However I will say that their jobs are for the most part dangerous and unpredictable. There is a potential for death every time they put on their uniform. So I would imagine that they take their jobs very seriously. With this in mind, most have zero tolerance for nonsense. Wouldn’t you if you were in their position? So with this thought in mind, every civilian should try their best to minimize conflict. An argumentative nature will do nothing but get you in trouble and an officer angry. All I can really suggest is for people to use common sense. Trust I'm not saying be afraid or timid of police either. But pride causes more trouble than necessary sometimes.
The first thing I believe us as college student can do to improve relations with police is to obey and understand their purpose of serves. We also have to think about if we was in their position and how would we act.
I believe the police as a whole has a job to do however, there are certain ways they can go about doing it, especially with interactions with students. During a situation with high direst I believe the police should be more cooperative however, I believe students need to do a better job of listening. Students need to educate themselves on the laws as well as their rights as a citizen, students make a lot of assumptions about what they can and can't do without being certain and I believe by educating oneself it limits these type of discrepancies.
In order to improve black student relation with police we first need to ALL recognize that the problem isn't so much the police it's more of a actions. We need to come together and correct the attitudes or regulate the attitudes of our black peers then get together with the chief of police and work out away where the police and our black peers know the procedures and consequences of actions. So we know if we act THIS way THIS will happen.
I think in order to improve black student relations with campus police is for people to realize that sometimes they aren't right all the time and that the police aren't out to get them. Black students need to realize that it isn't just because they are black is the reason why cops are always watching them, it's just cops jobs to patrol the streets and parties to make sure nothing such as fights or killings happen. I think that black students need to creat a relationship with the cops by talking to them and showing cops respect and not just thinking that cops are the bad people in the world.I believe that black students also need to develop a respect level with cops because at times it doesn't seem like there is any respect with each other at all. I think if these steps are taken first then there would be some improvement within the cop and student relationship. Once this is established i think that then the relationship will just improve gradually if everyone works at it.
The only way that I can think of that would improve our relationship with the police is talking to them about our concerns. Like in the book we are reading, we just need to know our rights and they can't do anything that goes against them.
I think everyone hit on the points. We as students need to know our rights. When you know what your rights are you gain freedom because with education comes freedom. you don't have to be afraid of the police, because if they do pull you ova or come to your party you know what they can and can't do. and as Alyssa stated, sometimes the cops are not always out to get us, they might just be doing their job. And so we wouldn't be as jumpy if we know our rights. So I believe knowing our rights will improve relationships with the police.
Everyone have touch on most of the point that I had in mind. But I think the most important action that black student could take to improve the relation with campus police as Hammed mention, is "education and the formation of a common ground between both sides". By doing this, it will help’s both sides to get a better understanding of each other, and help to improve some of the issue that we are facing on our campus and community today. Secondly, black student and campus police communicating on a daily base because police are around the campus because of our safety. We should not be scare to give a feedback when a police ask a question or try to have a sample conversation.
I know the post is about "black students" but Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. stated, "If you try to tel the people in most Negro communities that the police are their friends, they just laugh at you"(qtd. in Asante 151) and it stood out to me. Although Dr. King has been passed for going on 43 years now and that seems so long ago, the sentiments about the police have yet to change in the black community. The black community is what produces the black students therefore we must start there. A relationship beyond a negative view of police is pretty much non existent in the black community. So first there needs to be change of mindset about the law enforcement officers. Officers also need to help to change the minds of the black community by investing into it, investing time by hosting events in the parks or events that show the black youth how the police do their jobs. Things like this will show that police officers have a human side. Forming a positive relationship with the black community will aid in changing the relationship with the community. Another thing high lighted by my peers and by Asante is the usefulness of knowing your rights. In the text Asante suggests that the knowledge of your rights is a very powerful weapon against fighting police malpractice. If you know your rights it prevents many violations of the law (165-166). On both the University and student sides of the table, there needs to be more proactive solutions rather than reactive. Students need to talk to the authorities, police and university administrators, about the problems on campus that they have seen or that they assume may lead to problems. There needs to be more casual conversation between students and authorities. Officers do not know how they are affecting us unless we tell them how we feel about situations and then the problems can be addressed. All of these things combined will make for better relationships with authorities.
I'm agreeing with most of my classmates and the book when I say knowledge is power. Knowledge of our rights and knowledge of how to interact with the police. We then need to share that knowledge with our peers. We can either share it through programs, like our forums, or we can simply use word of mouth.
I believe that the only way to build a good relationship between the black students on campus and the campus police is RESPECT and better communication from both parties. This can prevent any type of unjustified outcomes like the Highdive incident and any type of police brutality like the Rodney King incident that was mentioned in the book "Its Bigger Than Hip-Hop" incidences like that one can be put to an end by prevention. More respect for each other in the way we talk to each other and our actions toward one another can improve these relationships.
OK, from what I got from the meeting last Tuesday there are many things that are being addressed already that really aren't understood. For example, a lot of people have issues with the policies for handling fights or conflicts at events on campus. (Black events) When the chief was asked about the policies the issue was danced around, but I think that was because there is really no clear consensus answer as to how to handle such events. That inconsistency needs to be addressed by students taking part in understanding the risks of throwing parties on campus at facilities that need campus police protection as well as monitoring the people that are allowed into these events. The police relationship here need to improve between the actual party facilitators not CRCE or the Union but the fraternities that are throwing these parties! I also thing that there are many issues with the relationship between police because of the pre-conceived notion that they are a problem because of the Black culture. There are many people who grew up knowing that some police forces are corrupt and troublesome, but in the case of campus police and student life, there needs to be better communication with the controlling parties, such as the chancellor and the student body. Students could try to dissociate the relationships they have with the police in their home towns with the campus police. There can be more involved steps taken such as actually taking one of the ride-a-long days and learn more about the force itself! The last step I think that can be taken is ask around and find out the political parties that we have close relationships with and make conversation about the issues on campus and bring them to the attention of the chief of police.
I agree with La Tina and Guali. I feel a huge thing that needs to happen is a meeting with the police from Champaign, Urbana and the campus and the students and residents. However, we need officers that are willing to answer all our questions. I say that because at the meeting Tuesday, I didn't feel like the chief of police answered majority of the questions that were asked.
Students could be willing to listen to why and how laws have to be enforced and the police have to be willing to listen to the students concerns as well. That's what we are really lacking in this relationship between us and the police "UNDERSTANDING". So we need to start listening and understanding in order to mend our relationship.
I feel that students must create a relation with the police. We have to get past this midset that "cops are bad" in order to improve the relationship. If we continue to have this negative relationship with authority we will never achieve balance. That being said, we have to still be aware of the issue of racial profiling. If you find yourself in that type of situation it is up to you to choose how to handle it. Just as Asante spoke about his personal experience with the police, we have to use knowledge to overpower ignorance. Instead of reacting in a negative way he simply continued to stress to the officer that he knew his rights. Know your rights.
Since I have been here on campus I think we have done everything in our power to have a great relationship with the police. There have been police forum which I have attended personally, city council meeting, meeting on our very own campus the the Culture Center has held along with BGSA, BGC and more. I'm not sure what the police have done for us (the black community). I just wish when these meeting are held people showed up and showed out because we (blacks) can never filled the room until someone is shot and dead. Blacks can blame ignorance all they want to but it is up to up to us promote the things that are important to us. I just wish we used our networking skills to promote something position instead of promoting parties and get together. We need to have things set at a higher priority before it is too late. I'm not sure what we can do to bridge that gap between campus and the police because I feel like we have tried everything in our power to make them see what is happening and what is wrong. We need someone on that board that speaks for us! That is the only way I can see a change coming. Until this happens we will always be the ones in trouble.
Have a forum between the police and the students that want to improve relations with them. As students on this campus learn our rights!
ReplyDeleteI agree with what LaTina said thats basically the only thing to do as of now we need to talk to them and express our feelings and concerns about the actions they take and how they go about doing things, maybe once they see where we are coming from together we can come up with alternative solutions.
ReplyDeleteI believe the key towards improving black students relations with the campus police is education and the formation of a common ground between both sides. I believe if most students took the time to understand and be aware of campus regulations along with the potential consequences, students will be less inclined towards breaking them. Also on the side of the officials, I believe more can be done on their part towards reaching out to students in order to make students more calm and comfortable while students are in their midst. At the root of it all, I believe the University should play a lead role towards unifying the police and students.
ReplyDeleteLa Tina hit it right on the head. I believe that students should have an event where they can learn about their rights and learn about ways to which they can handle certain situations that are constantly talked about. Also, I feel like those students that are against the police, need to become a little less judgmental of each police officer. With better approaches to authority, I believe that many situations would be handled a lot easier with less controversy.
ReplyDeleteKnowing our rights is very vital. "A lot of times If we knew our rights a lot of things that happen with the police wouldn't have happened." (DeaD Prez p.165). If in a police encounter, knowing our rights may prevent injustice, as they realize we know what's considered proper and improper procedure. Or if improper procedure takes place and we report it, they face consequences and may lessen the chances of them furthering their misconduct.
ReplyDeleteI think that knowing how to network and having positive interactions with the police can improve the relationship between the two. That way if we saw them we wouldn't have any animosity built up inside towards them. I also agree with Airian's point about knowing our rights. Maybe if there was an incidence involving the police, and we knew what they could and couldn't do, it would make the situation go by a lot smoother. That way there could also be a respect level amongst the two groups so instead of getting angry with the police or arguing with them, a simple conversation will suffice. Things like that can prevent occurrences like what happened at High Dive.
ReplyDeleteContrary to popular belief….Police officers are people too. I’m not saying that every cop is a good one, we all know that this is not the case. However I will say that their jobs are for the most part dangerous and unpredictable. There is a potential for death every time they put on their uniform. So I would imagine that they take their jobs very seriously. With this in mind, most have zero tolerance for nonsense. Wouldn’t you if you were in their position? So with this thought in mind, every civilian should try their best to minimize conflict. An argumentative nature will do nothing but get you in trouble and an officer angry. All I can really suggest is for people to use common sense. Trust I'm not saying be afraid or timid of police either. But pride causes more trouble than necessary sometimes.
ReplyDeleteThe first thing I believe us as college student can do to improve relations with police is to obey and understand their purpose of serves. We also have to think about if we was in their position and how would we act.
ReplyDeleteI believe the police as a whole has a job to do however, there are certain ways they can go about doing it, especially with interactions with students. During a situation with high direst I believe the police should be more cooperative however, I believe students need to do a better job of listening. Students need to educate themselves on the laws as well as their rights as a citizen, students make a lot of assumptions about what they can and can't do without being certain and I believe by educating oneself it limits these type of discrepancies.
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ReplyDeleteIn order to improve black student relation with police we first need to ALL recognize that the problem isn't so much the police it's more of a actions. We need to come together and correct the attitudes or regulate the attitudes of our black peers then get together with the chief of police and work out away where the police and our black peers know the procedures and consequences of actions. So we know if we act THIS way THIS will happen.
ReplyDeleteI think in order to improve black student relations with campus police is for people to realize that sometimes they aren't right all the time and that the police aren't out to get them. Black students need to realize that it isn't just because they are black is the reason why cops are always watching them, it's just cops jobs to patrol the streets and parties to make sure nothing such as fights or killings happen. I think that black students need to creat a relationship with the cops by talking to them and showing cops respect and not just thinking that cops are the bad people in the world.I believe that black students also need to develop a respect level with cops because at times it doesn't seem like there is any respect with each other at all. I think if these steps are taken first then there would be some improvement within the cop and student relationship. Once this is established i think that then the relationship will just improve gradually if everyone works at it.
ReplyDeleteThe only way that I can think of that would improve our relationship with the police is talking to them about our concerns. Like in the book we are reading, we just need to know our rights and they can't do anything that goes against them.
ReplyDeleteI think everyone hit on the points. We as students need to know our rights. When you know what your rights are you gain freedom because with education comes freedom. you don't have to be afraid of the police, because if they do pull you ova or come to your party you know what they can and can't do. and as Alyssa stated, sometimes the cops are not always out to get us, they might just be doing their job. And so we wouldn't be as jumpy if we know our rights. So I believe knowing our rights will improve relationships with the police.
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ReplyDeleteEveryone have touch on most of the point that I had in mind. But I think the most important action that black student could take to improve the relation with campus police as Hammed mention, is "education and the formation of a common ground between both sides". By doing this, it will help’s both sides to get a better understanding of each other, and help to improve some of the issue that we are facing on our campus and community today. Secondly, black student and campus police communicating on a daily base because police are around the campus because of our safety. We should not be scare to give a feedback when a police ask a question or try to have a sample conversation.
ReplyDeleteI know the post is about "black students" but Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. stated, "If you try to tel the people in most Negro communities that the police are their friends, they just laugh at you"(qtd. in Asante 151) and it stood out to me. Although Dr. King has been passed for going on 43 years now and that seems so long ago, the sentiments about the police have yet to change in the black community. The black community is what produces the black students therefore we must start there. A relationship beyond a negative view of police is pretty much non existent in the black community. So first there needs to be change of mindset about the law enforcement officers. Officers also need to help to change the minds of the black community by investing into it, investing time by hosting events in the parks or events that show the black youth how the police do their jobs. Things like this will show that police officers have a human side. Forming a positive relationship with the black community will aid in changing the relationship with the community. Another thing high lighted by my peers and by Asante is the usefulness of knowing your rights. In the text Asante suggests that the knowledge of your rights is a very powerful weapon against fighting police malpractice. If you know your rights it prevents many violations of the law (165-166). On both the University and student sides of the table, there needs to be more proactive solutions rather than reactive. Students need to talk to the authorities, police and university administrators, about the problems on campus that they have seen or that they assume may lead to problems. There needs to be more casual conversation between students and authorities. Officers do not know how they are affecting us unless we tell them how we feel about situations and then the problems can be addressed. All of these things combined will make for better relationships with authorities.
ReplyDeleteI'm agreeing with most of my classmates and the book when I say knowledge is power. Knowledge of our rights and knowledge of how to interact with the police. We then need to share that knowledge with our peers. We can either share it through programs, like our forums, or we can simply use word of mouth.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the only way to build a good relationship between the black students on campus and the campus police is RESPECT and better communication from both parties. This can prevent any type of unjustified outcomes like the Highdive incident and any type of police brutality like the Rodney King incident that was mentioned in the book "Its Bigger Than Hip-Hop" incidences like that one can be put to an end by prevention. More respect for each other in the way we talk to each other and our actions toward one another can improve these relationships.
ReplyDeleteOK, from what I got from the meeting last Tuesday there are many things that are being addressed already that really aren't understood. For example, a lot of people have issues with the policies for handling fights or conflicts at events on campus. (Black events) When the chief was asked about the policies the issue was danced around, but I think that was because there is really no clear consensus answer as to how to handle such events. That inconsistency needs to be addressed by students taking part in understanding the risks of throwing parties on campus at facilities that need campus police protection as well as monitoring the people that are allowed into these events. The police relationship here need to improve between the actual party facilitators not CRCE or the Union but the fraternities that are throwing these parties! I also thing that there are many issues with the relationship between police because of the pre-conceived notion that they are a problem because of the Black culture. There are many people who grew up knowing that some police forces are corrupt and troublesome, but in the case of campus police and student life, there needs to be better communication with the controlling parties, such as the chancellor and the student body. Students could try to dissociate the relationships they have with the police in their home towns with the campus police. There can be more involved steps taken such as actually taking one of the ride-a-long days and learn more about the force itself! The last step I think that can be taken is ask around and find out the political parties that we have close relationships with and make conversation about the issues on campus and bring them to the attention of the chief of police.
ReplyDeleteI agree with La Tina and Guali. I feel a huge thing that needs to happen is a meeting with the police from Champaign, Urbana and the campus and the students and residents. However, we need officers that are willing to answer all our questions. I say that because at the meeting Tuesday, I didn't feel like the chief of police answered majority of the questions that were asked.
ReplyDeleteStudents could be willing to listen to why and how laws have to be enforced and the police have to be willing to listen to the students concerns as well. That's what we are really lacking in this relationship between us and the police "UNDERSTANDING". So we need to start listening and understanding in order to mend our relationship.
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ReplyDeleteI feel that students must create a relation with the police. We have to get past this midset that "cops are bad" in order to improve the relationship. If we continue to have this negative relationship with authority we will never achieve balance. That being said, we have to still be aware of the issue of racial profiling. If you find yourself in that type of situation it is up to you to choose how to handle it. Just as Asante spoke about his personal experience with the police, we have to use knowledge to overpower ignorance. Instead of reacting in a negative way he simply continued to stress to the officer that he knew his rights. Know your rights.
ReplyDeleteSince I have been here on campus I think we have done everything in our power to have a great relationship with the police. There have been police forum which I have attended personally, city council meeting, meeting on our very own campus the the Culture Center has held along with BGSA, BGC and more. I'm not sure what the police have done for us (the black community). I just wish when these meeting are held people showed up and showed out because we (blacks) can never filled the room until someone is shot and dead. Blacks can blame ignorance all they want to but it is up to up to us promote the things that are important to us. I just wish we used our networking skills to promote something position instead of promoting parties and get together. We need to have things set at a higher priority before it is too late. I'm not sure what we can do to bridge that gap between campus and the police because I feel like we have tried everything in our power to make them see what is happening and what is wrong. We need someone on that board that speaks for us! That is the only way I can see a change coming. Until this happens we will always be the ones in trouble.
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